Legislature(2011 - 2012)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/28/2012 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:08:01 AM Start
09:09:46 AM SB170
09:13:47 AM Overview of Port Projects: Port of Anchorage
10:24:59 AM Overview of Port Projects: Arctic Port Study, Department of Transportation and Public Facilities
10:47:06 AM 54074 $1 MILLION GF TO CONTINUE THE ARCTIC PORTS STUDY
10:54:24 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 170 VOCATIONAL ED. COUNSELING IN SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 170 Out of Committee
+ Overview of Port Projects TELECONFERENCED
Port of Anchorage
Port Mackenzie and Rail Extension
Arctic Port Study - DOT
SENATE BILL NO. 170                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act requiring vocational education counseling in                                                                       
     public schools."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:09:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  explained that  SB 170 introduced  vocational                                                                   
counseling  to 7th, 9th,  and 11th  graders. He offered  that                                                                   
some   students   expected  to   get   out  of   school   and                                                                   
automatically  get into a  trade or  vocation, but  that they                                                                   
often  had  very little  understanding  of  what it  took  to                                                                   
become  successful in  that  particular  trade. He  explained                                                                   
that  the  bill  did not  create  any  redundancy  in  school                                                                   
services, but  that it required  schools to offer  vocational                                                                   
counseling  in the  7th,  9th, and  11th  grades. He  offered                                                                   
that  evidence   showed  that  when  people   had  vocational                                                                   
counseling,  they were  more successful  in school and  life;                                                                   
the counseling  also had  a positive  effect on the  juvenile                                                                   
justice  system.  He concluded  that  the  bill had  no  cost                                                                   
associated with it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  discussed   a  zero  fiscal  note  in  the                                                                   
packet.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson inquired  if the legislation  had any  support                                                                   
from  the school  districts. He  observed that  the bill  did                                                                   
not fund  any of  the counseling  and expressed concern  that                                                                   
it  represented   an  "unfunded   mandate."  Senator   Thomas                                                                   
responded that  all the districts  that he had talked  to had                                                                   
supported the bill  and that the Department  of Education and                                                                   
Early  Development had  the existing  resources  in place  to                                                                   
implement the legislation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:12:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas MOVED  to report SB 170 out  of committee with                                                                   
individual  recommendations   and  the  accompanying   fiscal                                                                   
note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SB  170  was REPORTED  out  of  committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and with a  previously published  zero fiscal                                                                   
note: FN1 (EED).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW OF PORT PROJECTS: PORT OF ANCHORAGE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:13:47 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:14:49 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:14:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SULLIVAN,  MAYOR,  CITY  OF  ANCHORAGE,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                   
teleconference),  stated  that the  Port  of Anchorage  (POA)                                                                   
was  a  vital  asset for  Alaska.  He  related  that  shortly                                                                   
before he had  taken office in 2009, there  were construction                                                                   
problems with the  port installation and that  his office had                                                                   
spent the  last two  years reviewing  the construction;  over                                                                   
that time,  the project's  costs had increased  dramatically.                                                                   
He related  that the new estimate  of the needed  funding had                                                                   
originally  been  $1 billion,  but  that  he had  scaled  the                                                                   
design down, which  reduced the estimate to  $350 million. He                                                                   
mentioned  that the governor  had allocated  $200 million  in                                                                   
his  budget for  the POA  Intermodal  Expansion Project,  but                                                                   
that the port  was seeking the full funding  of $350 million.                                                                   
He shared  that there  was a new  relationship and  agreement                                                                   
between the Municipality  of Anchorage and the  U.S. Maritime                                                                   
Administration  (MARAD),  which  was the  federal  agency  in                                                                   
charge of  the construction  project.  The new memorandum  of                                                                   
agreement  with MARAD  set a  whole new  level of  oversight,                                                                   
which   included   an  oversight   committee,   a   technical                                                                   
committee,  a quality control  program, liability  insurance,                                                                   
and a  U.S. Army Corps  of Engineers'  third party  review of                                                                   
the  project. He  opined that  the  POA Intermodal  Expansion                                                                   
Project  was  back  on  the  right   track  and  that  fiscal                                                                   
certainty was the last remaining hurdle for the project.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
STEVE   RIBUFFO,  INTERIM   DIRECTOR,   PORT  OF   ANCHORAGE,                                                                   
presented an update  of the POA Intermodal  Expansion Project                                                                   
titled "POA Presentation"(copy on file).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo discussed slide 2 titled "Facts about the                                                                           
Port."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • The major point of entry for containerized cargo in                                                                      
     Alaska                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • Services support over 200 rural communities in the                                                                       
     State                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Annually, 240,000 containers move through the Port                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Since 2000, an average 4 million tons of goods and                                                                       
     materials pass through the Port's facilities annually                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • 90% of merchandise goods for the Railbelt and                                                                            
     interior Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • 100 million pounds of bypass mail items                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • 52,000 vehicles processed annually on average                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • 80% of the cement for concrete                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo addressed  slide  3 titled  "Cargo  Distribution                                                                   
Map"  and related  that it  illustrated  the distribution  of                                                                   
cargo  from the POA  via road,  rail, barge,  and plane.  The                                                                   
distribution  pattern supported  over  200 rural  communities                                                                   
with fuel and bypass mail deliveries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo spoke to slide 4 titled "Fuel Services &                                                                            
Military Support."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Fuel Services:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • 11 million barrels of fuel annually                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • 2/3 of the jet fuel for Ted Stevens Anchorage                                                                            
     International Airport                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • 100% of the jet fuel for Joint Base Elmendorf-                                                                           
     Richardson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • 2/3 of all fuel used by the military in Alaska                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • 1.4 million barrels of fuel are shipped from POA to                                                                      
     rural Alaska                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Military Support:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Designated a Department of Defense National                                                                              
     Strategic Seaport                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • One of only 19 ports in the nation to have this                                                                          
     designation                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Supported over 30 deployments since 2005, including                                                                      
    Stryker Brigade deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo  stated  that  the  POA  would  be  hosting  the                                                                   
commissioning  of  the  naval   warship  "Anchorage"  in  the                                                                   
spring of 2013.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo spoke to slide 5 titled "Employment & Payroll."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • Regular Operations:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • $50 million aggregate annual payroll from Port                                                                           
     Stakeholders                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
    • Ship days over 3,600 vehicles moving through port                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Non-ship days over 600 vehicles                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Expansion Project:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Directly employs 150-200 tradesmen & women annually                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Over 200 companies involved in project from 2005 -                                                                       
     2009                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo  related  that  the POA  was  a  major  economic                                                                   
engine  for Alaska  that contributed  over  $750 million  per                                                                   
year to the  economy, with higher estimates  reaching over $1                                                                   
billion.  The  port not  only  played  an important  role  in                                                                   
Alaska's economy,  but it  also accounted  for 30 percent  of                                                                   
the business from  the Port of Tacoma. He observed  that port                                                                   
operations created  jobs for a  variety of trade  industries,                                                                   
including  union  members  such  as  longshoreman,  operating                                                                   
engineers, and teamsters.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo discussed slide 6 titled "Port Stakeholders."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     A "stakeholder" is a company that relies regularly on                                                                      
     the port facilities to conduct routine business and/or                                                                     
     leases port property.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Horizon Lines                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Totem Ocean Trailer Express (TOTE)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Alaska Basic Industries (ABI)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Tesoro Alaska                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Crowley Marine Services                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Aircraft Service International Group (ASIG)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Flint Hills Resources                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Alaska Railroad Corporation                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • U.S. Army - Alaska and U.S. Transportation Command's                                                                     
     Surface Deployment & Distribution Command (SDDC)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Cook Inlet Tug and Barge                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  spoke to  slide 7  titled "Annual Dock  Tonnage"                                                                   
and stated  that the  POA averaged around  4 million  tons of                                                                   
cargo  per  year. He  explained  that  the "Dry  Bulk  Goods"                                                                   
category  consisted  predominately  of  commodities  such  as                                                                   
cement  and   steel.  The   "Petroleum  Shoreside"   category                                                                   
referred  to  petroleum  products  that  passed  through  the                                                                   
port's  valve yard  on  route to  either  an on-port  storage                                                                   
facility  or  over  the  dock,   and  which  were  originally                                                                   
delivered to  the port via  pipeline or rail.  The "Petroleum                                                                   
Dockside"  category  referred   to  petroleum  products  that                                                                   
passed  through  the  port's valve  yard  while  entering  or                                                                   
leaving  the  port, and  which  were  transported by  a  fuel                                                                   
tanker  or  barge.  He  noted that  the  break  down  between                                                                   
petroleum     and    the    "Vans/Flats/Containers/Vehicles"                                                                    
category  was  about  50/50,   but  that  recently  petroleum                                                                   
business  had represented  about  52  percent of  the  port's                                                                   
cargo.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  explained  slide 8 titled  "Revenue &  Operating                                                                   
Projections."  He  stated that  the  slide showed  the  POA's                                                                   
actual revenue  and operating  expenses in  2011, as  well as                                                                   
the  projections  for  2012  through  2021;  the  projections                                                                   
included  revenue increases  associated  with the  completion                                                                   
of  the new  berths,  as  well  as anticipated  revenue  that                                                                   
would result  from changes  by existing  tenants. He  pointed                                                                   
out  that  the  port  had  a  stable  customer  base  and  an                                                                   
expanding facility that was near a population center.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  for an  explanation  of the  revenue                                                                   
projections on  slide 8 and  inquired if a population  growth                                                                   
in the  Anchorage and Mat-Su  areas accounted for  the rising                                                                   
revenue. Mr.  Ribuffo responded that the  projected increases                                                                   
in  revenue would  be a  result of  negations with  companies                                                                   
for  either a  presence  on  the POA  or  a growth  in  their                                                                   
business  at the  port;  new  businesses changes  by  current                                                                   
tenants  would increase  the  amount  of tonnage  across  the                                                                   
dock and would result in more revenues.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman queried  if  slide 8  represented a  stand-                                                                   
alone  analysis   or  whether   it  also  factored   in  Port                                                                   
McKenzie.  Mr. Ribuffo  responded that  it was a  stand-alone                                                                   
analysis for the POA.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  inquired  if   another  port  being  built                                                                   
"across  the  straits" would  have  an  effect on  the  POA's                                                                   
revenue projections.  Mr. Ribuffo responded that  to the best                                                                   
of his knowledge,  it would not have an effect.  He explained                                                                   
that the  POA had  been an import  port for  a long  time and                                                                   
that  interest in  the port  came from  "like" businesses  or                                                                   
existing port businesses that were growing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  observed  that   the  POA  had  a  healthy                                                                   
projected cash flow  and queried what the anticipated  use of                                                                   
the  money  was.  Mr.  Ribuffo  replied  that  the  port  had                                                                   
traditionally put  the annual  profits back into  the project                                                                   
as   its   funding  contribution   towards   completing   the                                                                   
construction  and   added  that   the  port  had   done  this                                                                   
"religiously" for the past five years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman further  inquired  what the  cash flow  was                                                                   
used  to purchase.  Mr.  Ribuffo  responded that  the  port's                                                                   
money went  into the  construction pool  for that  particular                                                                   
season.  He   offered  that   it  might   be  used   for  the                                                                   
installation  of bulkhead  sheet  pile,  movement of  gravel,                                                                   
paving of surfaces, and likewise activities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked if the POA would be  doing additional                                                                   
construction  through 2021 and  noted that  slide 8  showed a                                                                   
projected  cash  flow  of  about $11  million  in  2021.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo stated that  if the POA received the  $350 million in                                                                   
funding  that it  was  requesting, the  estimated  completion                                                                   
date was in  2019; after the construction was  completed, the                                                                   
port  would  have to  reconsider  how  its profits  would  be                                                                   
used.  He  mentioned  that  the   POA  had  a  facility  that                                                                   
required  a significant  amount  of maintenance  and that  in                                                                   
the future,  the port  might be  investing in increasing  the                                                                   
annual amount  of work  that went  into repairing sheet  pile                                                                   
and  "the like";  leftover  funds  would stay  in  a bank  as                                                                   
profit.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   noted  that  the  port's   expenses  were                                                                   
projected to  grow at a  rate of 2.75  percent, but  that the                                                                   
revenue was projected  to grow at 6 percent.  He inquired why                                                                   
the  port's  expenses  were  only   moving  at  the  rate  of                                                                   
inflation.  Mr. Ribuffo  responded  that he  did  not have  a                                                                   
definitive  answer for  the question,  but  that the  revenue                                                                   
growths were  based on  expectations of  new revenues  to the                                                                   
port  that would  result from  changes to  the businesses  at                                                                   
the port.  He explained that the  expenses would not  grow as                                                                   
much  as   the  revenues   because  the  required   lifecycle                                                                   
maintenance cost of  the new area would be far  lower than it                                                                   
was on  the current  pile-supported dock,  which was  part of                                                                   
the  reason  why  the port  wanted  to  do  the  construction                                                                   
project. He added  that slide 8's projections  represented an                                                                   
estimate based on the port's "best estimates at this time."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:27:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested a more detailed breakdown  of the                                                                   
expected  changes   over  time  to  the  POA's   revenue  and                                                                   
expenses,  as well  as  the  projections on  its  operational                                                                   
cash flow.  Mr. Ribuffo responded  that he would  provide the                                                                   
requested information.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   stated  that  a  large  expense   to  the                                                                   
operation of the  port was dredging, which had  been paid for                                                                   
by the  Army Corps of Engineers.  He inquired if  the federal                                                                   
government  would continue  to pay  for the  dredging at  the                                                                   
port,  given the  "tightening"  of  the federal  budget.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  responded that  the port  had  discussions with  the                                                                   
Army Corps  of Engineers  regarding that  issue and  that the                                                                   
port did  not anticipate any  problems with the  continuation                                                                   
of federal funding for maintenance dredging.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   requested  that   the  POA  provide   the                                                                   
committee  with  the  expected  costs  of  the  dredging.  He                                                                   
stated that  the committee needed  to know what  exposure the                                                                   
state  had  in regards  to  dredging  and observed  that  the                                                                   
state would not  be building a port, which  was structured so                                                                   
that  dredging  ceased  if  the   federal  government  had  a                                                                   
budgetary constraint. Mr. Ribuffo acknowledged the request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   referenced  Co-Chair  Hoffman's   earlier                                                                   
question  regarding  net  cash   flows  and  stated  that  he                                                                   
assumed  that  there  was  no  marginal  debt  regarding  the                                                                   
port's  net   cash  flow,   "so  it   would  be  all   equity                                                                   
construction  going forward."  Mr.  Ribuffo  replied that  if                                                                   
additional  capital  construction   was  required,  the  port                                                                   
would have to  consider its ability to fund  the construction                                                                   
with either debt  or profits. He added that the  port did not                                                                   
anticipate any  future construction beyond the  completion of                                                                   
the current  project. Co-Chair  Stedman interjected  that his                                                                   
understanding  of the  port's  current project  was that  the                                                                   
state   was  the   last   player   standing  and   that   the                                                                   
municipality  and  the  federal  government  were  no  longer                                                                   
involved.  He  concluded   that  the  state  of   Alaska  was                                                                   
responsible  for finishing  the port's  project and  inquired                                                                   
if  this assumption  was correct.  Mr.  Ribuffo responded  in                                                                   
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  queried how much debt the  POA could handle                                                                   
with its  operations. Mr.  Ribuffo replied  that there  was a                                                                   
slide later in the presentation addressing the issue.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  spoke to slide  9 titled  "The Port is  50 years                                                                   
old  and in  a deteriorated  condition." He  stated that  the                                                                   
cathodic protection  system had exceeded its useful  life and                                                                   
that there was  severe corrosion throughout the  facility. He                                                                   
mentioned  that a  2011 memo  had estimated  that there  were                                                                   
1300  pilings   that  required   repairs   due  to  age   and                                                                   
corrosion.  He observed that  since 2004,  the port  had only                                                                   
repaired 111  pilings, which was  an average of 16  pilings a                                                                   
year and  that it  cost about  $1.6 million  to replace  that                                                                   
many  pilings annually.  He offered  that  assuming that  the                                                                   
corrosion stopped  completely and  the port "quadrupled"  its                                                                   
efforts,  it  would  still  take 15  years  to  complete  the                                                                   
necessary  repairs, which  would  not add  increased  seismic                                                                   
protection  or  provide  any   modernization  of  the  port's                                                                   
facilities.   He   referenced  Co-Chair   Hoffman's   earlier                                                                   
question regarding  how the  port's cash  flow would  be used                                                                   
and  stated that  increasing the  number of  piles that  were                                                                   
repaired per  year was one of  the activities that  the money                                                                   
would be used for.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo discussed  slide  10  titled "The  Project  will                                                                   
replace  the  current container  facilities  while  providing                                                                   
modern,  reliable   and  expanded   infrastructure   for  our                                                                   
future."  He  explained  that the  POA  Intermodal  Expansion                                                                   
Project  area was  outlined in  yellow on the  slide and  had                                                                   
been scaled  back from  its original  scope. When  completed,                                                                   
the new facilities  would allow the port's  current container                                                                   
ship tenants,  TOTE and  Horizon Lines,  to move their  ships                                                                   
off  the old  facility to  the  new, larger  and more  modern                                                                   
berthing  spaces,  which were  built  to  a higher  level  of                                                                   
seismic  stability and  operational  safety.  He stated  that                                                                   
the  two  barge   berths  would  provide  new   economic  and                                                                   
business opportunities  for shippers  in the region,  as well                                                                   
as  ready  access to  a  rail  line that  extended  the  full                                                                   
length  of  the  port. Additional  benefits  of  the  project                                                                   
included  access  to 65  acres  of commercial  or  industrial                                                                   
land,  with immediate  access to  intermodal connections  and                                                                   
water-born  transportation. He  related that the  combination                                                                   
of  increased berthing  space  and  acreage would  allow  the                                                                   
port to better  facilitate military deployments,  accommodate                                                                   
larger  vessels   that  had  a  deeper  draft,   and  support                                                                   
resource  development projects  in the  state and region.  He                                                                   
added that  perhaps most importantly,  the new dock  would be                                                                   
built to  a higher degree  of seismic stability,  which would                                                                   
insure that  the port would  remain operational  following an                                                                   
earthquake.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stated that  there had been  concerns about                                                                   
icing  issues.   He  explained   that  there  were   concerns                                                                   
regarding  putting  ships  alongside the  sheet  metal  walls                                                                   
without the  ability to  push the  ice underneath the  docks,                                                                   
which  was  a process  that  was  currently being  done.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo stated that  it was impossible to push  ice under the                                                                   
dock.  He explained  that  iced froze  around  the piles  and                                                                   
that  during  the  winter,  the piles  and  ice  were  frozen                                                                   
together.  He  related that  the  process  used by  tug  boat                                                                   
companies  to prepare  the dock  for winter  arrivals was  to                                                                   
use tractor  engines to move the  ice away from the  dock. He                                                                   
related  that   the  process   for  removing  ice   was  well                                                                   
practiced  and that  ice had  never  been a  problem for  the                                                                   
port.  He added that  the port  had never  closed because  of                                                                   
ice and  that with  respect to port  operations, ice  had not                                                                   
been a problem in the five years he had been at the port.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  pointed out  that his question  was whether                                                                   
icing would be  problem in the future, once  ships were being                                                                   
laid along  the sheet metal  wall. He mentioned  that members                                                                   
of the maritime  industry had indicated that  the sheet metal                                                                   
wall  could  be  substantially  different  than  the  current                                                                   
piling  dock regarding  how to  deal with  icing issues.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo stated  that his understanding  of studies  that were                                                                   
conducted by the  Army Corps of Engineers was  that ice would                                                                   
not  be  a factor  for  ships  that were  docking  along  the                                                                   
bulkhead  wall. Co-Chair  Stedman  requested that  a copy  of                                                                   
the  Army  Corps of  Engineers'  letter  be provided  to  the                                                                   
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:35:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman pointed  to the  three construction  blocks                                                                   
on slide 10.  He noted the dates for construction  inside the                                                                   
blocks  and  inquired  if  they  were  correct.  Mr.  Ribuffo                                                                   
responded in  the affirmative. Co-Chair Hoffman  queried what                                                                   
impact  "jettying out  like this"  would have  on silting  at                                                                   
the most  utilized portion of  the dock and further  inquired                                                                   
if the  port anticipated  any additional  silting. He  opined                                                                   
that the current  type of construction would  cause "eddying"                                                                   
and  wondered if  there had  been any  studies regarding  how                                                                   
the  construction  could  affect   silting  in  the  downward                                                                   
portion  of the inlet.  Mr. Ribuffo  responded that  Co-Chair                                                                   
Hoffman's  analysis was correct  and that  the Army  Corps of                                                                   
Engineers   was  currently   conducting   modeling  to   help                                                                   
determine the phasing  for moving the container  ships off of                                                                   
the current  dock  to the north  end without  there being  an                                                                   
adverse  impact on  the  day to  day operations.  He  offered                                                                   
that by the  time all the information was gathered,  the port                                                                   
would  be able  to  construct  a good  plan  for phasing  the                                                                   
container  ships'  movements  in  order to  insure  that  any                                                                   
eddying or  increased siltation,  which might form  under the                                                                   
new  structure, would  not  be an  impact  to container  ship                                                                   
operators  or the petroleum  ships that  docked to  the south                                                                   
of the current facility.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman  asked   if  the  vast   portion   of  the                                                                   
additional  reclamation would  be done  with piling as  well.                                                                   
Mr. Ribuffo  replied that  the remainder  of the POA,  beyond                                                                   
the  redefined construction  project,  would  stay the  same.                                                                   
Co-Chair  Hoffman   clarified  that   he  was  referring   to                                                                   
construction  for the  three parcels  that  were outlined  in                                                                   
yellow on  slide 10 and queried  if the vast portion  of that                                                                   
construction  would   be  done  using  piling.   Mr.  Ribuffo                                                                   
responded  that  the  construction  would use  an  open  cell                                                                   
sheep pile wall with fill behind it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
EMILY COTTER,  DIRECTOR, MARKETING  AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS,  PORT                                                                   
OF ANCHORAGE,  interjected that  up to 65  acres of  the fill                                                                   
had already  been placed and was  visible within some  of the                                                                   
yellow outlined  areas on the  slide; the fill  was currently                                                                   
being used for staging materials.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:39:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   stated  that   there   was   substantial                                                                   
maintenance  on the current  dock due  to corrosion  and age.                                                                   
He  observed that  the scaled  down version  of the  project,                                                                   
which was  outlined in  yellow on slide  10, removed  part of                                                                   
the current dock  and inquired whether the port  had plans to                                                                   
remove the  rest of the  current dock. Mr. Ribuffo  responded                                                                   
that there  were no plans  to take out  the remainder  of the                                                                   
current  dock,  particularly  in  the  south  end  where  the                                                                   
petroleum   business   took  place;   this   area  would   be                                                                   
maintained in its current structure.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  how the port  would decrease  its                                                                   
maintenance  costs if  it kept  in place  and maintained  the                                                                   
old structure. Mr.  Ribuffo responded that the  port expected                                                                   
lower increases  in maintenance  costs  on the new  structure                                                                   
and would also  keep the current level of maintenance  on the                                                                   
old structure;  the port  would be  increasing the  amount of                                                                   
investment  in doing  pile repairs  in order  to sustain  the                                                                   
facility. He  concluded that in  the end, the port  would see                                                                   
the same level  of profits that "we see now"  and would still                                                                   
be able to operate without having to rely on tax payers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for a more detailed  breakdown of the                                                                   
POA's expenses.  He pointed  to the  port's projected  growth                                                                   
rate of  expenses over 11 years  and stated that if  the port                                                                   
was making new  additions and leaving its  old infrastructure                                                                   
in place,  it still had  to maintain the old  infrastructure.                                                                   
He  questioned  the  projected  growth  rate  of  the  port's                                                                   
expenses and  requested additional  information. Mr.  Ribuffo                                                                   
acknowledged the request.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  inquired what type of feedback  the POA had                                                                   
gotten from  its stakeholders  regarding the proposed  scaled                                                                   
back  project.   Mr.  Ribuffo  responded  that   the  primary                                                                   
stakeholders  that were  affected  by the  project were  TOTE                                                                   
and Horizon  Lines. Initially,  TOTE had expressed  concerns,                                                                   
particularly  with the  design of  the new  facility that  it                                                                   
would  be moving  into; the  concerns had  been addressed  to                                                                   
TOTE's  satisfactions.  He  added   that  Horizon  Lines  was                                                                   
looking  forward   to  the  opportunity  to  relocate   to  a                                                                   
modernized facility,  which had  larger container  cranes and                                                                   
that the company  might be changing the type  of vessels that                                                                   
it  brought  to the  port.  He  concluded  that both  of  the                                                                   
port's primary stakeholders were in support of the project.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  inquired if  the port's other  stakeholders                                                                   
were in  support of the  project. Mr. Ribuffo  responded that                                                                   
the  rest  of the  stakeholders  operated  primarily  on  the                                                                   
south end  of the port on  the petroleum docks.  He concluded                                                                   
that the  stakeholders on  the south  end had been  satisfied                                                                   
with the  support and service  that the port had  provided so                                                                   
far and that he did not see that changing in the future.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ribuffo    discussed   slide   11    titled   "Expanded                                                                   
Opportunities."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recent Customers:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · BP & ExxonMobile - Drill Pipe for the North Slope                                                                          
     Operations                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · U.S. Army - Alaska - Military Deployments                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Chugach Electric - Sub-station infrastructure                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Film Productions - Big Miracle                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · Holland America - 7 to 9 summer port calls                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     New Customers:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Tetrotech - CIRI Fire Island Wind Farm turbines &                                                                          
     construction equipment                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · A Refined Petroleum Storage Facility/Barge Operator                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · A Container Barge Operator                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · Alaska Basic Industries - Planned storage expansion                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · USS Anchorage - Commissioning ceremony                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Future Possibilities:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · Current Petroleum Tenant - Addition of a new product                                                                       
     line                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Film Productions                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Resource development projects - Gasline, dam, etc.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo  stated  that the  "Recent  Customers"  category                                                                   
represented   non-tenant  customers,   which  had   used  the                                                                   
facility  in  the  last  18 to  24  months.  Under  the  "New                                                                   
Customers" category,  the POA had listed businesses  that had                                                                   
formally indicated  intent to  use port facilities.  The port                                                                   
was  unable  to  disclose  the   names  of  all  of  the  new                                                                   
businesses   due   to   the   proprietary   nature   of   the                                                                   
discussions; however,  the port  at least provided  a generic                                                                   
description of how  the customer would use the  facility. The                                                                   
last section  of the slide described potential  opportunities                                                                   
in the  future that lacked formal  intent. He pointed  to the                                                                   
addition  of a new  product line  in the  third category  and                                                                   
stated  that it was  "80 percent  a sure  thing." He  related                                                                   
that  when the  addition  of the  new  product  line came  to                                                                   
fruition  in the  latter  part of  2013,  the port's  tonnage                                                                   
would go  back over 5  million tons per  year. He  noted that                                                                   
although the  port had  managed to  provide for new  customer                                                                   
use  in  the   past,  this  was  growing   increasingly  more                                                                   
difficult  due to space  constraints. He  stated that  due to                                                                   
the  close  relationship  the   port  had  with  its  primary                                                                   
lessees,  it  was  able  to  accommodate  transient  customer                                                                   
requests.  He shared  that  the  port counted  on  short-term                                                                   
access  to the  leased land  in order  to accommodate  larger                                                                   
shipping  requests  such  as those  of  municipal  light  and                                                                   
power and that  while there was not anything  financial in it                                                                   
for  the  lessees,  everyone  understood  the  importance  of                                                                   
making logistics  operations at the port a  success. He noted                                                                   
that although the  project was not complete, the  65 acres of                                                                   
new laydown  area had  already been  used to store  transient                                                                   
cargo.  He  concluded  that  the   port  had  a  lot  of  new                                                                   
opportunities, but that it needed more finished space.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman    requested   copies   of    the   port's                                                                   
correspondence  with its  "New Customers"  category that  was                                                                   
on  slide 11.  He stated  that if  there was  a problem  with                                                                   
disclosure,  the committee  would cross  that bridge when  it                                                                   
came to it.  He wanted to give the committee  the opportunity                                                                   
to see  documentation regarding  who was actually  interested                                                                   
in  the port  and of  what magnitude  the  interest was.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo acknowledged the request.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson additionally  requested  how  much the  port's                                                                   
"New  Customers" category  planned  on spending  in the  area                                                                   
and  how much  business  they would  be  putting through  the                                                                   
port.  He  observed  that  the  Finance  Committee  was  more                                                                   
interested in the  financial aspects than it was  in what the                                                                   
names  of  the  businesses  were.  Mr.  Ribuffo  inquired  if                                                                   
Senator  Olson  wanted  the  financial  information  included                                                                   
with port's  response back  to committee  that described  the                                                                   
businesses.  Co-Chair Stedman  responded  in the  affirmative                                                                   
and further  requested information  regarding a timeline,  if                                                                   
there was  one, of  when the potential  customers needed  the                                                                   
facility or an  indication if the interest was  more general.                                                                   
Mr. Ribuffo  replied that  the same  question had been  asked                                                                   
the prior year  and that several of the companies  had agreed                                                                   
to  provide  the  requested information,  as  well  as  their                                                                   
names;  furthermore, he  appreciated that  the committee  had                                                                   
kept the  confidentiality of the  companies and  offered that                                                                   
the same agreement could probably be reached again.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo explained slide 12 titled "Funding."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The project has been funded through a combination of                                                                       
     port, state and federal funds.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     $331 million received to date:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
               Federal Funds - $138.7 million                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
               State Funds - $ 121.3 million                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
               Port of Anchorage Funds - $ 71.0 million                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         · The Port also qualifies for a $75 million line of                                                                    
          credit and is currently allowed                                                                                       
          to draw up to $51 million. Currently it has drawn                                                                     
          $40 million of this credit line.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
         · The Port has also put $31 million towards the                                                                        
           project from savings and revenues since 2001.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo  related  that  the   POA  had  $29  million  in                                                                   
uncommitted  appropriations   and  could  draw   another  $11                                                                   
million  on  its   line  of  credit.  If  needed,   the  port                                                                   
currently had access to up to $40 million.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  began to speak to  slide 13 titled  "State Funds                                                                   
Received" and noted  that the state funding  received for the                                                                   
project   to  date   was  $121   million.  Co-Chair   Stedman                                                                   
requested  a clarification on  slide 12.  He observed  that a                                                                   
line  of  credit  was often  used  for  short-term  financing                                                                   
versus using  long-term  debt financing.  He inquired  if the                                                                   
port's  line  of credit  was  an  actual  line of  credit  or                                                                   
whether it was  the amount that the facility could  be put in                                                                   
debt. Mr.  Ribuffo stated  that the  municipal manager  might                                                                   
provide  a better  answer,  but  that his  understanding  was                                                                   
that  line a  credit  was issued  from a  bank  and could  be                                                                   
drawn from,  up to  a certain limit;  the borrower  would pay                                                                   
interest  on the  drawn amount,  which got  "rolled over"  in                                                                   
periods  of 120 to  180 days.  He related  that the  port had                                                                   
drawn  $40 million  on its line  of credit  and continued  to                                                                   
roll it  over and pay the  interest on it. He  concluded that                                                                   
when the  port was finished  with the construction,  it would                                                                   
begin to start paying the line of credit back.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:48:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stated that  his questions did  not reflect                                                                   
a lack of  support of the  project, but that he  believed the                                                                   
committee  needed to  be well  versed on all  the aspects  of                                                                   
the POA because  it was "Alaska's port." He  queried if there                                                                   
had ever  been a  dividend to  the Municipality of  Anchorage                                                                   
from the  port, given  the surpluses and  the funds  from the                                                                   
federal  and state  governments. Mr.  Ribuffo responded  that                                                                   
the  municipality paid  an  annual fee  instead  of taxes  in                                                                   
order  to  help  city  government;   the  fee  was  somewhere                                                                   
between $500,000  to $750,000  per year,  but it depended  on                                                                   
what the port's  revenues had been. He related  that the port                                                                   
also paid  what were called  "intergovernmental charges"  for                                                                   
those  services   that  the  municipality  provided   to  the                                                                   
enterprises  and utilities  for  services that  the port  did                                                                   
not have the staff to perform.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  requested that  the POA  provide a  copy of                                                                   
its dividends for  the last ten years to the  Municipality of                                                                   
Anchorage.  Co-Chair Stedman  asked the  port to provide  the                                                                   
requested information.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  inquired why  the  port had  a  short-term                                                                   
line of credit instead of long-term debt.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE  VAKALIS, MUNICIPAL  MANAGER, PORT  OF ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                   
teleconference),  replied  that  the  port  had  received  "a                                                                   
pretty  good deal"  regarding  the interest  on  its line  of                                                                   
credit  and  that it  was  more  cost  effective to  use  the                                                                   
short-term line of credit at the current time.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried  if a line of credit  was as "easily                                                                   
callable"  as a long-term  bond. Mr.  Vakalis responded  that                                                                   
he was  unsure about it being  easily callable, but  that the                                                                   
line of credit  was still good as long as the  port continued                                                                   
to  make its  payments; furthermore,  the port  did not  have                                                                   
any difficulty making the payments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  inquired when  the port expected  to switch                                                                   
its short-term  credit into long-term  debt and  offered that                                                                   
it did not  appear that the port  had the ability to  pay the                                                                   
line  of  credit  off,  given the  hundreds  of  millions  of                                                                   
dollars  in upcoming  capital  costs. Mr.  Vakalis  responded                                                                   
that  the   port  was  currently   working  with   its  chief                                                                   
financial  officer in  order to  figure out  the best way  to                                                                   
finance the debt.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo   discussed  slide  14  titled   "Federal  Funds                                                                   
Received" and related  that the project had  received a total                                                                   
of $138.7  million in federal  funds. He stated  that federal                                                                   
funding had been  the project's primary source  of funding in                                                                   
its early years;  however, the port had not  seen any federal                                                                   
funding in  the past two years.  He shared that the  port was                                                                   
now  also  pursuing  funding at  the  federal  level  through                                                                   
competitive  grants,  but  that  it  was  clear  that  future                                                                   
federal funding  would be  at lower levels  than it  had been                                                                   
in the past.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  directed the presentation back  to slide 13                                                                   
and asked for an explanation of the slide.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  continued to  discuss slide  13 and stated  that                                                                   
it listed the  state funds that the project  had received, as                                                                   
well as the Senate bills that had appropriated those funds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:53:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman stated  that over the  last several  years,                                                                   
the  committee had  been very  supportive of  moving the  POA                                                                   
Intermodal  Expansion Project  forward. He  offered that  the                                                                   
committee's support  could be seen on slide  13's "year after                                                                   
year" of  funding increments  and observed  that the  federal                                                                   
government and  the municipality  had pretty much  backed out                                                                   
of the  financing part  of the  project. Mr. Ribuffo  replied                                                                   
that  the port  was aware  of, and  appreciated "very  much,"                                                                   
the state's support regarding the project.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  requested   the  port   to  provide   the                                                                   
committee  with  its  timeline,   otherwise  knows  as  "burn                                                                   
rate," for  the funds  needed to complete  the project  as it                                                                   
was proposed. Mr. Ribuffo acknowledged the request.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo explained  slide  15 titled  "Funds Expended  on                                                                   
Project" and  explained that it  listed the total  funds that                                                                   
had  been expended  on the  project since  its inception.  He                                                                   
stated  that to  date,  $301 million  had  been spent  and/or                                                                   
obligated on  the areas  listed on the  slide. He  noted that                                                                   
the   POA   Intermodal  Expansion   Project   involved   many                                                                   
activities that were  not happening on the north  end. In the                                                                   
years that  preceded 2007,  when the port  was able  to start                                                                   
the north  end, a  lot of rework  was done  to make  the port                                                                   
more  accessible; improvements  included  the  addition of  a                                                                   
rail  line for  trucking operations,  the  construction of  a                                                                   
haul road  that connected  the port to  the military  base in                                                                   
Anchorage,  and the  65 acres  of added fill.  The haul  road                                                                   
was being used  not only for gravel hauling  for the project,                                                                   
but also for  military deployments. He offered that  a lot of                                                                   
good  things had  been accomplished  since  the beginning  of                                                                   
the project, but that it went unnoticed sometimes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo  discussed slide 16  titled "Funding."  He stated                                                                   
that  in  order  to  successfully  move  forward,  plan  more                                                                   
efficiently,  and be able  to exploit  economies of  scale to                                                                   
better  control  costs,  the port  needed  to  have  complete                                                                   
funding  for the project  up front.  He related  that in  its                                                                   
annual  request  to  the  legislature,  the  Municipality  of                                                                   
Anchorage's highest  priority was to secure $350  million for                                                                   
the POA  Intermodal Expansion  Project; the requested  amount                                                                   
was  based on  a 2011  cost estimate  and  included an  added                                                                   
contingency.  He  shared that  it  was  the POA's  intent  to                                                                   
construct the  project with $350  million of state  funds and                                                                   
not have  to return to the  legislature for more  funding. He                                                                   
observed that full,  upfront funding would allow  the port to                                                                   
create multi-year  bids and would also allow  the creation of                                                                   
efficiencies  that did not  currently exist; upfront  funding                                                                   
would   eliminate  the   need   to  pay   for  the   constant                                                                   
mobilization     and    demobilization    of     construction                                                                   
contractors,   would  allow  the   contractors  to   purchase                                                                   
material at  the best available  prices, and would  eliminate                                                                   
the risk  of further increasing  the project costs  that were                                                                   
caused  by a  lack of  funding and  inefficiencies that  were                                                                   
created by constantly changing the contractor of record.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  observed  that  the  legislature  had  not                                                                   
expected to  fully fund the  project for completion,  but had                                                                   
basically   inherited   the   project   because   the   other                                                                   
participants were  no long able  to come to the  table and/or                                                                   
had  other  constraints; he  opined  that  it should  not  go                                                                   
unnoticed  how the state  became the  backer of the  project.                                                                   
Mr. Ribuffo responded that it had not gone unnoticed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator McGuire  pointed out that  if the state was  going to                                                                   
invest its  money, it should  do so with  a focus  on success                                                                   
and efficiency.  She opined  that rather  than short  funding                                                                   
the project, the  state could create project  efficiencies by                                                                   
funding the full amount.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:57:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman    inquired   if   there    was   official                                                                   
documentation   or   assurances,   which  stated   that   the                                                                   
Municipality of  Anchorage would not seek  additional funding                                                                   
in future years  if the requested $350 million  was provided.                                                                   
Mr. Ribuffo  replied that  the assurance  consisted of  Mayor                                                                   
Sullivan's,   as  well   as  his  own,   commitment   to  the                                                                   
committee. He related  that he did not intend  to go anywhere                                                                   
until  the  project  was  completed,   but  deferred  to  the                                                                   
municipal manager for a follow-up response.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman stated  that  he had  been  at the  finance                                                                   
table  for  close to  20  years,  during  which time  he  had                                                                   
probably  seen "ten managers  and ten  mayors come  forward."                                                                   
He shared  that he  was concerned about  what the  stances of                                                                   
future  managers  and  mayors  would be.  He  reiterated  his                                                                   
support of  the project, but  offered that assurances  should                                                                   
come from the municipality and not just the mayor.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  noted that  if the  project had been  fully                                                                   
funded  a  few  years  ago,  the  requests  would  have  been                                                                   
"pushing"  $1 billion.  He offered that  clearly the  project                                                                   
had been  out of control  and that it  would have been  a lot                                                                   
harder to get it  back on track with full funding  versus the                                                                   
incremental  funding. He  observed that  there was some  risk                                                                   
exposure  to  sending  $350  million   down  the  table.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  related that  subsequent slides  discussed the  ways                                                                   
the  port  had  reorganized  to  take  more  control  of  the                                                                   
project than it had in the past.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman pointed  out  that he  agreed with  Senator                                                                   
McGuire  that providing  the  funding  upfront  would be  the                                                                   
most efficient method  of funding because it  would result in                                                                   
a savings to  the state of millions of dollars.  He clarified                                                                   
that  his concern  had been  about  assurances regarding  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo's statement.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman requested  that  Mayor  Sullivan provide  a                                                                   
response   to    Co-Chair   Hoffman's   question    regarding                                                                   
assurances  in the packet  of other  responses that  would be                                                                   
submitted to the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo discussed slide 17 titled "Project History."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · 1999:  The  Port's  10-year Master  Plan  recommends  an                                                                   
     expansion program to meet future needs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · 2003:  The   Port  partners   with  the  U.S.   Maritime                                                                   
     Administration (MARAD) to implement the program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · 2005:  The preferred  alternative  is selected  (current                                                                   
     project design) and the permitting process begins.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · 2006:  Terminal  Road  Rail Extension  and  Coast  Guard                                                                   
     floating dock completed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · 2007: The project receives final permits.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · 2008:   North    and   South   Backlands    filled   and                                                                   
     Port/Tidewater Rd. improvements completed. Bulkhead                                                                        
     construction in the northern phase begins.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · 2009:  Dry Barge  Berth bulkhead  and mooring  complete.                                                                   
     Bulkhead construction continues. The port is made                                                                          
     aware of problems in the spring of 2009.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · 2010: Bulkhead  construction halted  when the  extent of                                                                   
     the damage was revealed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · 2011:   Work   focused    on   completing   sheet   pile                                                                   
     inspections to establish the integrity                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:01:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo addressed  slide  18 titled  "Old Paradigm."  He                                                                   
related that  the slide  was a flow  chart that depicted  how                                                                   
the project had  been managed in the past and  that it showed                                                                   
the  relationships  and  responsibilities   of  each  project                                                                   
partner.  He  stated   that  the  POA  was   responsible  for                                                                   
securing funding  and coordinating construction  phasing with                                                                   
its operation  needs. MARAD was  the lead federal  agency for                                                                   
the  project   and  was   responsible  for  contracting   and                                                                   
procurement,  oversight, quality  assurance  and control,  as                                                                   
well as  managing the project's  funding. MARAD used  to hire                                                                   
the Integrated  Concepts and  Research Corporation  (ICRC) to                                                                   
manage and  develop the project;  ICRC, in turn, relied  on a                                                                   
variety  of  subcontractors  to   design  and  construct  the                                                                   
project.  He  concluded  that  the  arrangement  between  the                                                                   
involved  partners  was  based  on  the  2003  memorandum  of                                                                   
understanding   between  MARAD   and   the  Municipality   of                                                                   
Anchorage, which had some serious problems.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo highlighted slide 19 titled "New Paradigm."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Old Paradigm Problems:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • No direct authority over project contractors by                                                                          
     Port/Muni.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • No on-site MARAD representative at Port.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • No direct liability or bonding protection for                                                                            
     Port/Muni.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • No Port directed construction oversight authority.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New Paradigm Solutions:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • New agreement establishing oversight committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • On-site MARAD representative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • A performance bond has been established for                                                                              
     Port/Muni.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • On-site construction observers reporting directly to                                                                     
     Port.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Direct involvement in quality control & assurance                                                                        
     program and monitoring.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Established a technical review committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo  related  that major  changes  were  enacted  in                                                                   
order to address  the old paradigm's problems  and insure the                                                                   
local control of the project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  inquired what the port's  construction bond                                                                   
covered.  Mr.  Ribuffo  replied  that the  bond  covered  all                                                                   
construction  activities   that  were  conducted   after  the                                                                   
establishment of the new memorandum of understanding.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas queried  whether the POA had  a "strong voice"                                                                   
or the  contractual authority  to direct the contractors  and                                                                   
change  the ongoing  activities. Mr.  Ribuffo responded  that                                                                   
ICRC  was the  contractor through  May 31,  2012. He  related                                                                   
that  the  memorandum  of understanding  that  the  port  had                                                                   
signed  would fundamentally  turn  the  project  over to  the                                                                   
municipality  to  manage from  June  1 onward.  He  concluded                                                                   
that the  relationships  would be codified  in new  contracts                                                                   
going forward.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo discussed slide 20 titled "Enacted Solutions."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   Enacted Solutions:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In  September,  2011,  the   Municipality  of  Anchorage                                                                   
     signed  a new Memorandum  of Agreement  with MARAD.  The                                                                   
     new  agreement  provides increased  accountability  from                                                                   
     all  parties and ensures  local control  of the  project                                                                   
     moving forward.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   The 2011 agreement:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Formalized the Project Oversight and Management                                                                            
     Organization giving the Port & Muni a decision making                                                                      
     role in all aspects of the project.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Ensures    that   MARAD    will   place   a    full-time                                                                   
     representative at the Port.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Increases liability and performance bond coverage for                                                                      
     the Muni                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · Transfers     all    contracting     and     procurement                                                                 
     responsibilities  from  MARAD   to  the  Muni  or  their                                                                 
     designee by May 31, 2012.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ribuffo stated  that the new agreement ensured  the local                                                                   
control of  the project in the  future and represented  a new                                                                   
direction for the project.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:05:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ribuffo  explained   slide   21  titled   "Establishing                                                                   
Control."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Establishing Control:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Additional  measures  have  been  taken  to  ensure  the                                                                   
     success and accountability of future construction.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is conducting an                                                                          
     independent  design review and  an analysis of  the work                                                                   
     completed to date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · The U.S. Department of Transportation's Office of the                                                                      
     Inspector  General  is conducting  an  audit of  MARAD's                                                                   
     contracting   and  procurement   methods  in   its  port                                                                   
     development  program using  the Port  of Anchorage  as a                                                                   
     case study.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · MARAD has engaged AECOM, a nationally known company,                                                                       
     to  conduct a "root  cause" analysis  of work  performed                                                                   
     prior to 2010.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo stated  that the  U.S. Army  Corps of  Engineers                                                                   
had  engaged  CH2M Hill  in  the  review and  analysis  work,                                                                   
which was  expected to be  made public  in late April  or May                                                                   
of the current year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ribuffo   thanked  the  committee   for  its   time  and                                                                   
reiterated  that the  POA  Intermodal Expansion  Project  was                                                                   
the highest  priority for the  Municipality of  Anchorage. He                                                                   
concluded  that the new  measures and  a commitment  for full                                                                   
funding   would   enable   the  project   to   move   forward                                                                   
successfully    with    local     control    and    increased                                                                   
accountability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stated that  he had visited  a ship  in the                                                                   
POA the  prior summer. He  recalled that  at the time  of his                                                                   
visit, there  had been discussions regarding  the utilization                                                                   
of the port  for tourism. He noted that the  presentation did                                                                   
not address tourism  being utilized by the port  and inquired                                                                   
whether  that  aspect  was  still  under  consideration.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  directed  the  committee's attention  to  slide  11,                                                                   
which  showed  that   the  Holland  America  Line   had  been                                                                   
bringing  the MS  Amsterdam  since  2010; the  Amsterdam  was                                                                   
expected  to return  in the  current season  with seven  port                                                                   
calls. He observed  that the port also  occasionally received                                                                   
the  smaller,  condominium  high-end   cruises  and  that  it                                                                   
expected  at  least one  such  cruise  to return  this  year.                                                                   
Because of the  geographic structure of the  port and through                                                                   
negations  with the  U.S.  Coast Guard,  accommodations  were                                                                   
made  for controlling  traffic  to securely  move  passengers                                                                   
and their  luggage on and off  of the port. He  observed that                                                                   
the   port   had  a   cooperative   relationship   with   its                                                                   
stakeholders  and  the Coast  Guard.  He concluded  that  the                                                                   
port  did not  make  a  lot of  money  off of  cruise  ships;                                                                   
however, it  liked having tourism  on its resume, as  well as                                                                   
having  the   cruise  ships   being  visible  from   downtown                                                                   
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:09:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman  queried  what   the  anticipated   annual                                                                   
revenue  from cruise  ship  activity  would be.  Mr.  Ribuffo                                                                   
replied that  he did not have  a specific number to  give the                                                                   
committee, but  that the port's  sources of revenue,  as they                                                                   
pertained to  cruise ships, came  from the state's  head tax,                                                                   
as well as from fees charged for support at the dock.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman requested  that Mr. Ribuffo  return  to the                                                                   
committee  with a  response  to Co-Chair  Hoffman's  question                                                                   
regarding cruise ship  income. He noted that there  was a lot                                                                   
of impact from visitors going into the communities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  McGuire  noted that  Alaska's  Film Tax  Credit  had                                                                   
spurred new  economic development in the  state, particularly                                                                   
in the  city of  Anchorage and  inquired how  the movie  "Big                                                                   
Miracle," as  well as  the tax credit  had impacted  the Port                                                                   
of Anchorage.  Mr. Ribuffo responded  that Big Miracle  was a                                                                   
first time  experience for  the port  on how  to deal  with a                                                                   
Hollywood  production  company.  He  related  that  the  film                                                                   
company  had   spent  three   months  looking  at   different                                                                   
locations on the  port and had ended up filming  one scene on                                                                   
the location.  He offered  that a film  scene that  was three                                                                   
minutes in length  represented two and a half  days of leased                                                                   
real estate  for the  port and  mentioned that  the scene  in                                                                   
the movie  was filmed on the  project's 65 acres of  fill. He                                                                   
stated that  the port  had leased  3 or 4  acres to  the film                                                                   
for staging vehicles  and trailers for the cast.  He observed                                                                   
that the film did  not generate a lot of money  for the port,                                                                   
but that it was an enjoyable and cooperative experience.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  McGuire requested  that the port  provide the  exact                                                                   
revenue figures  that the  film generated  for the  port. She                                                                   
noted  that  even  if  the  generated  revenue  was  a  small                                                                   
amount,  the committee  needed  to get  a feel  for what  the                                                                   
future growth opportunities  for the state were.  She offered                                                                   
that  certain  areas  had  growth  opportunities  that  might                                                                   
currently  be  measured  in small  amounts,  but  that  those                                                                   
areas  could   represent  increased   opportunities   in  the                                                                   
future.  Mr. Ribuffo  responded  that  he would  provide  the                                                                   
requested  information  for the  committee,  but opined  that                                                                   
the  revenue  figures   that  the  film  generated   for  the                                                                   
Anchorage area would be more interesting.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:13:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas asked  for a  clarification on  slide 21  and                                                                   
queried if any  state funding would be expended  on the three                                                                   
activities  listed on  the slide.  Mr.  Ribuffo replied  that                                                                   
the dollars to fund those studies had already been spent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ellis extended  his thanks  to Mr.  Ribuffo and  Ms.                                                                   
Cotter for  their efforts and  related that he  represented a                                                                   
district   and  a   constituency   that  were   significantly                                                                   
affected by  activities at  the port.  He commented  that Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  was  often  present at  local  meetings  within  his                                                                   
district   and  stated   that  the   port's  engagement   and                                                                   
communication  with   the  community  was   appreciated.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  responded that  he had  only missed  one meeting  in                                                                   
the  last  two  years  because  it  had  coincided  with  his                                                                   
wedding anniversary,  but that  communication "puts a  lot of                                                                   
fears aside."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  inquired how  the POA's corrosion  maintenance                                                                   
practices and technologies  compared to those of  other ports                                                                   
along  the West  Coast  and opined  that  corrosion in  these                                                                   
warmer-water  ports  would be  much  more  of a  factor.  Mr.                                                                   
Ribuffo  stated   that  Cook  Inlet  was  one   of  the  most                                                                   
corrosive environments  in the world because its  waters were                                                                   
brackish, constantly  moving, and filled sediment.  He stated                                                                   
that  the  portion  of  the port  that  was  currently  under                                                                   
construction  utilized  a galvanized-steel  open  cell  sheet                                                                   
pile and  related that  other ports  had not used  galvanized                                                                   
steel.  The galvanized  steel  was more  expensive and  would                                                                   
also  have cathodic  protection  attached  to it.  He  opined                                                                   
that the  new process would extend  the life of the  steel to                                                                   
75  or 100  years. He  related that  cathodic protection  did                                                                   
exist on the old  port and that it still existed  on parts of                                                                   
the port,  but that it  was beyond its  useful life  in other                                                                   
areas.  He concluded  that the  port  was trying  to keep  up                                                                   
with  putting sleeves  on the  pilings that  support the  old                                                                   
dock in order to extend its life.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  expressed his  appreciation to the  POA for                                                                   
its efforts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:18:46 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:23:18 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW  OF PORT  PROJECTS: ARCTIC  PORT STUDY,  DEPARTMENT                                                                 
OF TRANSPORTATION and PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JEFF OTTESEN,  DIRECTOR, PROGRAM  DEVELOPMENT, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
TRANSPORTATION  AND PUBLIC FACILITIES,  began a  presentation                                                                   
titled  "Arctic  Port(s)  Study  Update"(copy  on  file).  He                                                                   
stated  that the  Arctic Port  Study covered  a coastline  of                                                                   
about  1,000 miles  with three  seas, two  oceans, and  three                                                                   
separate  oil and gas  provinces that  were undergoing  lease                                                                   
sales.  He shared  that the  Arctic  region had  tremendously                                                                   
large resource deposits  of minerals, coal, gas,  and oil, as                                                                   
well as  an extremely limited  roadside network that  did not                                                                   
allow  any one port  to serve  as a  redistribution point  to                                                                   
other  locations. He  offered that  it would  take more  than                                                                   
one port  to serve the region  and stated that the  study was                                                                   
being  referred to  as  the "ports  study"  instead of  "port                                                                   
study."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:24:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed slide 1 titled "Study History."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · January 2008 Port and Harbor Conference sparked wide                                                                       
     interest in focusing attention on Alaska's ports                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · November 2010 Port and Harbor Conference built on this                                                                     
     and identified a long list of ongoing and new needs                                                                        
     including an Arctic port.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · May 2012 Arctic Port Kickoff Meeting (charette) was                                                                        
     held with numerous stakeholders                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · December 2012 Army Corps of Engineers and Alaska DOT&PF                                                                    
     execute $3 million Alaska Deep-Draft Arctic Ports Study                                                                  
     Feasibility Study Cost Sharing Agreement.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  discussed  the first bullet  point and  recalled                                                                   
that in the 80s,  the state had become less  involved in port                                                                   
and  harbor needs;  since that  time, communities,  community                                                                   
leaders, and  other stakeholders had  asked the state  to get                                                                   
back to  a more active  role with its  ports and  harbors. He                                                                   
addressed  the  third  bullet   point  and  stated  that  the                                                                   
Department  of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities  (DOT)                                                                   
had  matched funding  with  the Army  Corps  of Engineers  to                                                                   
hold a  two-day meeting; the  meeting's purpose was  to bring                                                                   
numerous  stakeholders   together  in  order   to  begin  the                                                                   
dialogue of  what an Arctic should  look like, what  needs it                                                                   
would serve,  as well  as the  opportunities and  limitations                                                                   
of building such a port.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested a definition of  the geographical                                                                   
parameters of  the Arctic Port  Study. Mr. Ottesen  responded                                                                   
that  there  were  multiple  definitions   of  "Arctic"  with                                                                   
regard to  Arctic ports.  He offered  that Congress  referred                                                                   
to  the Artic  as  everything north  of,  and including,  the                                                                   
Aleutian Islands.  He stated that  there was language  put in                                                                   
the  study's  2012  appropriation  that asked  the  study  to                                                                   
identify  ports north  of Nunivak  Island.  He observed  that                                                                   
there was  one definition  from the  legislature and  another                                                                   
from Congress, but  that the study was essentially  using the                                                                   
Nunivak  Island  definition. He  noted  that there  had  been                                                                   
discussion  about extending  the Nunivak  Island boundary  as                                                                   
far south  as the  Kuskokwim River  Delta. He concluded  that                                                                   
the range  of the  study extended  northward past the  Seward                                                                   
Peninsula  and around to  the common  Canadian border  in the                                                                   
Yukon.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  inquired  if  the boundary  was  north  of                                                                   
Nunivak  Island or whether  it included  Nunivak Island.  Mr.                                                                   
Ottesen responded  that the boundary included  Nunivak Island                                                                   
and everything north of it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  noted  that  he would  have  expected  the                                                                   
request to be for the outside of the Kuskokwim.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ottesen  addressed   slide  2   titled  "2012   Funding                                                                   
Purpose."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · "Study and identify potential Arctic deepwater port                                                                        
     sites. A deepwater Arctic port would be a long-term                                                                        
     vital asset to national security and to the State's                                                                        
     economy.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · It would provide a new, northernmost port for the US                                                                       
     Coast Guard to protect and patrol the state's Arctic                                                                       
     waters. Such vessels require a minimum of -35 feet."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  queried  if  the port  would  include  any                                                                   
military  use, particularly  the Navy,  or whether the  Coast                                                                   
Guard would  primarily use the  facility for spill  response,                                                                   
enforcement,  patrols, etc. Mr.  Ottesen responded  that when                                                                   
DOT had  held the charette  conference the previous  May, the                                                                   
Navy,  the National  Oceanic and  Atmospheric  Administration                                                                   
(NOAA),  and the Coast  Guard  had all been  invited and  had                                                                   
participated.  He  stated that  the  NOAA patrol  craft  were                                                                   
about  the same  size as  the  Coast Guard  patrol craft  and                                                                   
that any  port that would  accommodate the Coast  Guard would                                                                   
also  accommodate  NOAA;  both  organizations  had  indicated                                                                   
that they  did not  currently intend to  place vessels  in an                                                                   
Arctic port on  a permanent basis, but that they  would use a                                                                   
port for resupplying,  refueling, etc. He mentioned  that the                                                                   
Navy was  more reluctant to  attend the conference,  but that                                                                   
it  had sent  an  officer "almost  at  the  last minute."  He                                                                   
concluded  that  the  Navy had  been  cryptic  regarding  its                                                                   
interest  in  the port  and  noted  that  the Navy  had  much                                                                   
larger  vessels, which  would change  the type  of port  that                                                                   
was needed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:30:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  observed   that   there   seemed  to   be                                                                   
acceleration in the  shipping over the north  side of Siberia                                                                   
with both  Norway and Russia, as  well as some of  the issues                                                                   
regarding  China.   He  inquired   if  there  was   increased                                                                   
interest within the  Coast Guard to get measures  in place to                                                                   
deal with  increased traffic flows,  as well as  other issues                                                                   
in the  Arctic. Mr. Ottesen  responded that the  interest was                                                                   
there  and that the  traffic in  the Arctic  was growing.  He                                                                   
observed that  several natural  gas condensate  super-tankers                                                                   
had transited  through the Bering  Straits the prior  year on                                                                   
their  way to  markets in  Asia  and stated  that very  large                                                                   
vessels were  going through  the Arctic  on a routine  basis.                                                                   
He related that  nations that did not even have  a stake hold                                                                   
in the  Arctic were currently  building icebreaker  ships and                                                                   
stated that the  Arctic was the new gold rush  because of its                                                                   
resources  and opportunities  for transport.  He shared  that                                                                   
there were tremendous  cost savings in moving  vessels across                                                                   
the  Arctic. Co-Chair  Stedman  clarified  that the  resource                                                                   
rush in  the Arctic  involved  oil and not  actual gold.  Mr.                                                                   
Ottesen replied in the affirmative.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  inquired what type of icebreaker  construction                                                                   
was going  on in other countries  and further queried  if any                                                                   
of them would be  polar class. He noted that  the USCGC Healy                                                                   
was barely  able to  break through  four feet  of ice  on its                                                                   
way to  Nome recently, and  wondered whether the  icebreakers                                                                   
coming  out  of  Brazil  would  be  able  to  safely  transit                                                                   
through U.S.  waters. Mr. Ottesen  replied that he  had heard                                                                   
about the  icebreakers being  constructed in other  countries                                                                   
anecdotally  from a  Coast Guard  officer's presentation  and                                                                   
that the  class of  the ships was  not divulged;  however, he                                                                   
had the impression  that the icebreakers were  being made for                                                                   
the purpose of  entering and operating within  Arctic waters.                                                                   
He  indicated that  he would  look  into the  matter of  what                                                                   
type of icebreakers were being constructed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ottesen   discussed   slide  3   titled   "Army   Corps                                                                   
Partnership Schedule."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Use multi-criteria decision analysis technique to                                                                          
     screen potential sites                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Identify Potential Sites Final List by September 2012.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Evaluate Public-Private Partnership (P3) finance                                                                           
     mechanism                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · 2013-2014 Site Specific Feasibility Phase                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  related that the  partnership schedule  with the                                                                   
Army Corps of Engineers would  have the study produce a short                                                                   
list of  port sites by  the end of  the year. He  shared that                                                                   
there was a meeting with the Army  Corps of Engineers and its                                                                   
experts  the following  day and  that it would  be the  first                                                                   
meeting where the multi-criteria  decision analysis technique                                                                   
would  be used.  He  discussed the  second  bullet point  and                                                                   
stated that the  study hoped to have a draft  report finished                                                                   
by the  end of 2012.  He spoke to  the last bullet  point and                                                                   
related that  the specific feasibility  phase would  start to                                                                   
examine port sites in great detail.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:34:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  explained slide  4 titled  "Ports Vital  to Many                                                                   
Needs."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Sovereignty/Homeland Protection                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · Resource protection                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Offshore oil and gas exploration/development                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   · Search and rescue/Incident response                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Onshore resources export                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · Community supply and economic activities                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · Fisheries                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen observed  that there were many  different reasons                                                                   
to build  an Arctic  port and  that each  reason generated  a                                                                   
specific  set  of  criteria for  what  that  particular  port                                                                   
might  look like.  He spoke  to  the first  bullet point  and                                                                   
stated that  the Coast  Guard currently flew  a C-130  as its                                                                   
primary  mechanism for  asserting sovereignty  in the  Arctic                                                                   
regions of Alaska;  the aircrafts left anchorage  about every                                                                   
other  week on  a one-day  over  flight. He  related a  story                                                                   
about going  on one of the  over flights and shared  that the                                                                   
Coast Guard was  pretty limited in its ability  to operate in                                                                   
the  region.  He  noted  that  if the  Coast  Guard  were  to                                                                   
operate  in the  Arctic  region  with helicopters,  which  it                                                                   
would  soon  need to,  two  helicopters  would be  needed  on                                                                   
standby and  that because  there was no  place to  hangar the                                                                   
helicopters  in the  region, the  aircraft were  sent on  day                                                                   
trips. He  relayed how expensive  it was to fly  a helicopter                                                                   
from Kodiak up  to Barrow, Kotzebue, or Nome  and stated that                                                                   
the helicopters  would overnight  in those locations  only if                                                                   
the weather  was good. He noted  that the Coast  Guard needed                                                                   
two helicopters because  one had to serve as  the rescue unit                                                                   
for the crew of the other aircraft if it went down.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen  shared that  another  need  in the  region  was                                                                   
resource  protection activities  such  as oil  and gas  spill                                                                   
response  and   fisheries  patrols.  He  observed   that  the                                                                   
region's  first   year  of  oil   and  gas  exploration   was                                                                   
scheduled  to occur  in the summer  of the  current year  and                                                                   
that the  drillship was currently  on its way to  the Chukchi                                                                   
Sea;  other  leases were  scheduled  to  occur year  by  year                                                                   
thereafter.  He offered that  there would be  as many  as two                                                                   
dozen  ships operating  in the  Chukchi Sea  this summer  and                                                                   
that given  that there were  multiple leases, there  would be                                                                   
a large number  of vessels operating in the  Arctic region in                                                                   
the  future;  the vessels  would  need  to be  refueled,  re-                                                                   
crewed,   and  re-provisioned   with  food   and  parts.   He                                                                   
concluded  that  dealing with  the  vessels would  involve  a                                                                   
tremendous amount  of logistics  and that the  opportunity to                                                                   
provide services  in the region  was currently  very limited.                                                                   
He  relayed  that  onshore resources  export  from  coal  and                                                                   
other  minerals  required large  bulk  carriers  that used  a                                                                   
different  kind of  vessel;  a port  for  these carriers  and                                                                   
vessels  would have  different  needs than  a  port that  was                                                                   
constructed as  a community provisioning port.  He referenced                                                                   
an  energy crisis  in  Nome the  previous  winter and  shared                                                                   
that   communities   needed    to   be   re-provisioned   and                                                                   
resupplied. He  noted that Kotzebue operated  a shallow-water                                                                   
port and that  it could benefit from a deeper-water  port. He                                                                   
stated  that the  coastal  communities  relied on  precarious                                                                   
mechanisms  for  shipping  and  that  there  should  be  more                                                                   
reliability  to shipping,  as  well as  more opportunity  for                                                                   
the  communities to  be sustainable.  He shared  that as  the                                                                   
ice  moved north,  fisheries also  moved north  and that  the                                                                   
increased  fisheries  activity   in  the  region  created  an                                                                   
opportunity and a set of needs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen addressed slide 5 titled "Port Needs Vary."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Different     needs,      require     different     port                                                                   
     characteristics:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Mining export: very deep draft, proximity to                                                                          
          resource                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        · Oil and gas services: intermediate depth,                                                                             
          proximity to on-shore services, and off-shore                                                                         
          leases                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Potentially, no one port site ideal for all needs                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  reiterated that the  port needs associated  with                                                                   
the  different purposes  were  quite distinct.  He  concluded                                                                   
that  all of  the  varying criteria  for  the different  port                                                                   
purposes was the  reason it would be likely that  no one part                                                                   
site would be ideal for all of the needs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:39:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  discussed slide 6  titled "Natural  Harbor Sites                                                                   
Scarce."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Few natural harbors with wind and wave protection                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        · Marine structures must withstand significant ice                                                                      
          forces                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Water depth is generally shallow in Arctic shore areas                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       · Dredging will likely be necessary, on-going                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen  explained  slide  7  titled  "Linking  Need  to                                                                   
Funding."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Funding should relate to overall purpose:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        · Sovereignty/Homeland - federal                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        · Resource protection - federal and state                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · Search and rescue - federal and state                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        · Off-shore resources - federal                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        · On-shore resources - state/private                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        · Community/Economic development - state/local                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        · Fisheries - state/local                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen  noted that  most of  the different purposes  for                                                                   
ports had  a federal connection  and were the  responsibility                                                                   
of the  federal  government; however  the federal  government                                                                   
was not "in a mood right now" to give funding.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed slide 8 titled "Funding Issue."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Little National Economic Benefit as measured by federal                                                                    
     rules                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        · Corps, other federal agencies reluctant to                                                                            
          participate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Despite strong federal nexus, federal funding in doubt                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Public Private Partnership (P3) tool being evaluated                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen related  that the  Army Corps  of Engineers  had                                                                   
indicated  that there  was a long  list of  ports around  the                                                                   
nation that had  a very high "national economic  benefit" and                                                                   
that those ports would be funded before an Arctic port.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen explained slide 9 titled "P3s-Public Private                                                                        
Partnerships."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Increasingly common means to achieve public goods,                                                                         
     typically infrastructure                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · General characteristics:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        · Contract between public-sector and private party                                                                      
          for a public service or good                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        · Substantial private sector role; typically design,                                                                    
          finance, build and operations involved                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · Costs borne by users rather than public                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · Requires robust economics to cover risks                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        · Private entity often a new special purpose company                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed slide 10 titled "Why the Trend to                                                                         
P3s?"                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Someone else's money involved                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Off books of government spending or debt                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
  · Brings private sector expertise and management skills                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Possible tax advantages to private investors                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   · Aligns risk and reward to single entity                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · What's old is new again                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        · Early American toll roads, continental railroad                                                                       
          were P3s by another name                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Canada currently uses P3s at far greater level                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        · British Columbia requires P3 consideration for all                                                                    
          public projects                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed the third  bullet point and stated that                                                                   
the benefit  of private sector  expertise and  management was                                                                   
commonly overlooked in the U.S.,  but that it was the primary                                                                   
driver for why other nations were  turning to P3s. He pointed                                                                   
out that Canada used P3s at about  10 times the rate of U.S.,                                                                   
but  that   because  Canada  had   one-tenth  of   the  U.S's                                                                   
population, it was  actually using P3s at 100  times the rate                                                                   
that the of U.S. on a per capita basis.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:44:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen  explained  slide  11  titled  "Fitting  P3s  to                                                                   
Alaska."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Many Alaska projects require government help                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · Thin economics due to low user base                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        · High costs due to environment, geography                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        · Other ways to tap into private expertise                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · the Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                                                                     
     (AIDEA) has long been in business to assist beneficial                                                                     
     quasi-public projects                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        · Skagway ore terminal                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        · Red Dog road and terminal                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        · Ketchikan Shipyard and Drydock                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen  stated  that  AIDEA,   in  some  respects,  had                                                                   
characteristics  of a  P3 and  that DOT had  been talking  to                                                                   
AIDEA about being the department's financing partner in the                                                                     
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen spoke to slide 12 titled "Related Efforts."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Congressional Delegation working on several fronts to                                                                      
     help: icebreakers, hydrographic surveys, federal port                                                                      
     funds, international interest                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Statewide digital mapping effort will focus on                                                                             
     northwest Alaska this year to update onshore mapping                                                                       
     information in Arctic port study area                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        · (Some mapping costs eligible as state match)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed slide 13 titled "2013 Appropriation                                                                       
Request."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Governor's capital budget request:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        · #54074 $1 million GF to continue the Arctic Ports                                                                     
          Study                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        · Matched by $0.5 million federal funds                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        · Based on the 2012 effort, carry on the site                                                                           
          specific port feasibility investigation                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen spoke to slide 14 titled "Canada's Northern                                                                         
Strategy."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   · Sovereignty                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · Deepwater port, vessels and year round military                                                                       
          base                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Environment                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · Monitor and protect on- and off-shore resources                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Social and Economic Development                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        · Improve circumstances of residents                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        · Enable resource development for jobs and tax base                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Governance                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        · Working for sustainable local governance                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ottesen reported  that  Canada  planned on  building  an                                                                   
Arctic  port that  was  staffed  with a  year-round  military                                                                   
base and that Canada  saw the Arctic as an important  part of                                                                   
its future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:47:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen discussed slide 15 titled "Key Take-Aways."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Multiple ports likely necessary to serve many needs                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · No single governmental entity likely to cover full                                                                         
     costs of arctic port: federal, state or local.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · Resource user(s), may bring economies of scale to help                                                                     
     finance.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        · Today's push for minerals and energy could expand                                                                     
          opportunities                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        · Some form of private participation seems desirable                                                                    
          (AIDEA, P3s or ?).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · Need to shift federal focus to national security need                                                                      
     versus economic purpose                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator McGuire  requested that AIDEA be involved  in funding                                                                   
discussions  regarding an  Arctic port.  She recalled  having                                                                   
mentioned  in prior  comments that  the state  might have  to                                                                   
invest  through AIDEA  in order  to get  its own  icebreaker.                                                                   
She offered  that  Alaska had  more at stake  than any  other                                                                   
place in  the U.S. regarding  the Arctic. She  requested that                                                                   
conversations  with AIDEA  be  added to  slide 8's  potential                                                                   
funding  tools  and  opined  that there  were  all  kinds  of                                                                   
creative options  that could be explored. She  mentioned that                                                                   
she  had  been conducting  conversations  with  the  Canadian                                                                   
Government  through  her  leadership   role  in  the  Pacific                                                                   
Northwest   Economic   Region    (PNWER)   and   that   these                                                                   
discussions  had covered  the successes  of the NORAD  model.                                                                   
She encouraged DOT  to continue to reach out  to the Canadian                                                                   
Government   for   potential    partnerships.   Mr.   Ottesen                                                                   
responded  that he  had failed  to mention  how much DOT  had                                                                   
been  involved with  AIDEA. He  related  that the  department                                                                   
and AIDEA  had recently  met together  in Vancouver  with the                                                                   
P3  board,  which  managed  the P3s  for  the  government  in                                                                   
British  Columbia. He  pointed  out that  the department  was                                                                   
currently holding  meetings with AIDEA on Umiat,  Ambler, and                                                                   
other projects regarding the potential use of P3s.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  commented that  AIDEA  had a  dynamic  and                                                                   
energetic chairman.  He thought that the state  was moving in                                                                   
the right direction  regarding the Arctic issue,  but that it                                                                   
was moving too  slow and was not proactive  enough in leading                                                                   
the U.S.  to becoming an Arctic  nation. He addressed  one of                                                                   
Mr. Ottesen's  opening comments  that had indicated  that the                                                                   
state  was   turning  around  and  redirecting   its  efforts                                                                   
regarding  port  and  harbor  development;  he  offered  that                                                                   
maybe  DOT should  abandon its  efforts  to get  the City  of                                                                   
Bethel  to take  over  the regional  port  that serviced  the                                                                   
Kuskokwim and Yukon Rivers.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  stated that  if the  state moved forward,  it                                                                   
should  be  looking  at locations  that  had  some  available                                                                   
infrastructure.  He  was unsure  if  it was  a  good idea  to                                                                   
construct  a port  in  "the middle  of  nowhere," when  there                                                                   
were towns  on the  western coast of  the state that  already                                                                   
had port  facilities, airports,  roads, etc. He  thought that                                                                   
existing  roads and other  forms of  transportation could  be                                                                   
extended  to  connect  areas  so  that  the  state  would  be                                                                   
creating  an  Arctic  port  out  of  something  that  already                                                                   
existed,  rather  than  trying  to create  something  out  of                                                                   
nothing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:53:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thanked  DOT  for  keeping  the  committee                                                                   
informed and  observed that the  state of Alaska  was clearly                                                                   
a  little  more  energetic  about an  Arctic  port  than  the                                                                   
federal  government   was;  however,   the  committee   would                                                                   
attempt  to  work   through  that  issue  with   the  federal                                                                   
government. He discussed the following meeting's agenda.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
022812 - PIEP October 2011 Quarterly Report.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Port Projects
Overview Ports and Harbors
2011 Q4 Report to Legislature.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Ports Projects
022812 DOT Arctic Ports Study Update.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Port Projects
022812 SFIN RailPowerPoint.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Port Projects
022812 Army Corps of Engineers - Arctic Ports Study.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Port Projects
022812 - 2012 POA Lifeline-1.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overview Port Projects
POA Presentation 2 28 12 - 2.pdf SFIN 2/28/2012 9:00:00 AM
Overviews Port Projects